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April 19, 2010 at 1:00 am

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ABP on April 30, 2010 at 11:12 pm:

I think you are attributing a comment to me that was actually made by Anonymous.

Acajack

May 2, 2010 at 10:05 pm
ABP: ”Actually ACJ, are “facts” slander. Fully 80% of the people incarcerted in SK are aboriginal in hertitage (sad but true) .“

Yes, it is slander. Even if 99% of all prisoners were aboriginal, that does not mean that I (if I were an aboriginal) should automatically be assumed to be a criminal because of this fact. If in doubt, please read Martin Luther King Jr.’s I Have A Dream speech.

Acajack

May 2, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Do you know which tribe your Amerindien ancestors are from? If not…why? (Michel)

It is Kitigan Zibi (Algonquin).

My grand mother on my father’s side.

I remember the chikens running in the kitchen all around me when I was 2 years old. The smell of the horses. The maize and beans growing all around. I still hear her signing in her chair.

She married a Canadien. Farmer.(my grand father). I remember his couple of fingers missing. He was so slow in everything he was doing. Gentle. Took his time. Never did more than was needed.

Gébé Tremblay

May 2, 2010 at 11:18 pm
“Yes, it is slander. Even if 99% of all prisoners were aboriginal, that does not mean that I (if I were an aboriginal) should automatically be assumed to be a criminal because of this fact. If in doubt, please read Martin Luther King Jr.’s I Have A Dream speech.”

I don’t think Pankiw broad brushed all aboriginals as criminals. He simply presented the facts as to the number of aboriginals convicted of crimes in this area. . He only stated what many others are/were thinking and would not say out of politcal correctness. As politically incorrect as the leaflet may have been the numbers and facts were absolute. To say otherwise, out of political correctness is to put blinders on the facts (truths) as they exist. Playing the role of the Ostrich seldom brings about constructive change.

On your comment to Bruce regarding the ROC being open to french (Quebecois) culture.

I have over the past several months spent a great deal of time in the US. There is little coverage of Canadian items in the mainstream media. Further, many residents (not all) have little knowledge of Canada. Not that they are bad people or anything as the people I encountered were quite the contrary. Simply a matter of mass . The US is 13 times the populution of Canada and they are focused on their own country. Canada is a relatively small neighbor and as such has little consequence in the day to day lives of the people. On a smaller scale english (sorry multicultural…Bruce) Canada is quite a bit larger than Quebec so what goes on in Quebec and the contained culture is in reality not of great significance. Of course, many in Quebec could not tell you where Saskatoon is located or in what province. (I have come to know this from my frequent visits to Quebec and the common lack of knowledge of the ROC). The people of Quebec are very inwardly focused on their own province and culture (perhaps even more so than those in the ROC).

I see the goaltender Halak saved the day again for “les candienes”. Unbelievable with the SOG stats in todays game and those in the last two games against the Capitals (phew… 97 against 36 SOG in two games) . The guy is definately doing a great job. Kid Sidney was visibly frustrated today. Guess we will see what happens in Montreal.

a plus tard

ABP

Anonymous

May 2, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Sorry, the last comment May 2, 11:19PM was from ABP and not anonymous.

ABP

May 2, 2010 at 11:20 pm
@ Gébé, Désolé que tu trouve Toronto un tour de babel, une pagaille multiculturelle avec tant de problèmes à venir.

Vraiment Toronto n’a pas plus de ghettos que Montréal. Nous avons Jane-Finch mais là les gens parlent anglais, et pour la plupart la violence dévoile comme noir contre noir, même si la grande majorité des gens là est aussi bon que n’importe quelle autre quartier. Il s’agit des gangs qui se battent pour leur territoire et s’agit aussi des drogues.

Néanmoins il y a une toute nouvelle génération des jeunes à Toronto, et leur communication et leur élan est remarquable. Oui, il n’est pas une ville utopienne, coulant du miel et du lait comme a dit Acajack. Ces jeunes, moins de 35 ans, sont beaucoup plus ouverts que nous les gens un peu plus âgés comme moi, Acajack, et notre cohorte.

C’est beau à voir cette jeune effervescence. À vrai dire Gébé, je ne comprends pas tes conceptions d’un “nouveau peuple” au-délà de la langue parlé.

Quels sont vos traits et valeurs si différents comme peuple! Parce que je vois pas comment le style de vie chez vous est loin de le nôtre.

Explique-nous donc avec soin et des exemples concrètes et vérifiables pour illustrer ce que tu veux insinuer de notre caractère stéréotypique de ROC, selon toi, aussi écarté l’un de l’autre que feraient de nous de ROC un pays “faux” et un “blague médiocre”.

Il ne te faut pas crier des aspersions vagues manquant la clarité ou la logique.

Il te faut démontrer en quoi la fédération de vous avec nous empêche d’une vraie réussite sociale et culturelle chez vous. En quoi donc tu penses que le Québec est supprimé reprimé, opprimé par le ROC.

bruce

May 2, 2010 at 11:24 pm
@ Acajack,

Tu railles de tes expériences du passé mais il faut un “mind-set” pessimiste. L’homme du quotidien ne s’interesse pas beaucoup à ses propres voisins qui parlent la même langue encore moins un homme dans une autre province qui ne parle pas du tout sa seule langue à lui.

Mais la cohésion d’une société dépend bien plus aux gens éduqués et qui, possédant un bon volonté et un, esprit civique, veulent faire une meilleure société autour d’eux. Ce sont, donc les animateurs de la société.

Pourquoi voudrait-il cet homme engagé, se battre sa tête et son cerveau contre la muraille bricque des hommes manquant aucune agilité cérébrale qui ne prendent pas grand intêret dans leur société?

C’est à nous, les engagés que tu doit s’adresser, laissant tomber de se préoccupier des gens pas bien scolarisé, que t’as rencontré qui doivent lutter tous les jours pour gagner leur petit pain sans aucune théorie de conséquence sur leurs concitoyens. Eux, ces gens de ton passé sont des fantômes.

Mais je répète: Les temps ont beaucoup changé parmi les jeunes.

Viens à Toronto et on essayerait de prendre un sondage chez les jeunes d’ici sur leurs points de vu sur le monde et sur la tolérance culturelle.

Oui je sais qu’à Québec comme d’icitte, c’arrive un changement graduel!

Acajack, bonne philosophe si mélancolique et pessimiste —

Bon courage!

Bonne nuit je dirais à tous — parce que
je crève encore, manque de sommeil!

bruce

May 3, 2010 at 12:01 am
It is Kitigan Zibi (Algonquin).

My grand mother on my father’s side.

I remember the chikens running in the kitchen all around me when I was 2 years old. The smell of the horses. The maize and beans growing all around. I still hear her signing in her chair.

She married a Canadien. Farmer.(my grand father). I remember his couple of fingers missing. He was so slow in everything he was doing. Gentle. Took his time. Never did more than was needed.

Good for you. Now, go light a candle in their memory in a church.

Id bet that’s what they would have done for you.

michel

May 3, 2010 at 7:35 am
ABP: “I don’t think Pankiw broad brushed all aboriginals as criminals. He simply presented the facts as to the number of aboriginals convicted of crimes in this area. . He only stated what many others are/were thinking and would not say out of politcal correctness. As politically incorrect as the leaflet may have been the numbers and facts were absolute. To say otherwise, out of political correctness is to put blinders on the facts (truths) as they exist. Playing the role of the Ostrich seldom brings about constructive change.”

Sure, but what is Pankiw’s point then? Is he actually advocating for constructive change? Bravo if he is, but I would really like to know. I am always skeptical when I heard stuff like this… and happy to be proven wrong.

Acajack

May 3, 2010 at 8:21 am
“On your comment to Bruce regarding the ROC being open to french (Quebecois) culture.
I have over the past several months spent a great deal of time in the US. There is little coverage of Canadian items in the mainstream media. Further, many residents (not all) have little knowledge of Canada. Not that they are bad people or anything as the people I encountered were quite the contrary. Simply a matter of mass . The US is 13 times the populution of Canada and they are focused on their own country. Canada is a relatively small neighbor and as such has little consequence in the day to day lives of the people. On a smaller scale english (sorry multicultural…Bruce) Canada is quite a bit larger than Quebec so what goes on in Quebec and the contained culture is in reality not of great significance. Of course, many in Quebec could not tell you where Saskatoon is located or in what province. (I have come to know this from my frequent visits to Quebec and the common lack of knowledge of the ROC). The people of Quebec are very inwardly focused on their own province and culture (perhaps even more so than those in the ROC).”

I am not necessarily advocating for them being open or not open. I also don’t think they are necessarily bad or narrow minded for not being interested.

Just responding to a comment insinuating that they are “really” open. Aside from a few notable exceptions, this has not been my experience.

Acajack

May 3, 2010 at 8:23 am
“Tu railles de tes expériences du passé mais il faut un “mind-set” pessimiste. L’homme du quotidien ne s’interesse pas beaucoup à ses propres voisins qui parlent la même langue encore moins un homme dans une autre province qui ne parle pas du tout sa seule langue à lui.
Mais la cohésion d’une société dépend bien plus aux gens éduqués et qui, possédant un bon volonté et un, esprit civique, veulent faire une meilleure société autour d’eux. Ce sont, donc les animateurs de la société.
Pourquoi voudrait-il cet homme engagé, se battre sa tête et son cerveau contre la muraille bricque des hommes manquant aucune agilité cérébrale qui ne prendent pas grand intêret dans leur société?
C’est à nous, les engagés que tu doit s’adresser, laissant tomber de se préoccupier des gens pas bien scolarisé, que t’as rencontré qui doivent lutter tous les jours pour gagner leur petit pain sans aucune théorie de conséquence sur leurs concitoyens. Eux, ces gens de ton passé sont des fantômes.
Mais je répète: Les temps ont beaucoup changé parmi les jeunes.”

The latest “incident” I can refer to actually happened just this past weekend. An we are talking about people in their late 20s and 30s, BTW, not in their 60s.

Acajack

May 3, 2010 at 8:25 am
“If in doubt, please read Martin Luther King Jr.’s I Have A Dream speech.””(Anonymous)

You should look a little more deeply into who realy was Martin Luther King Jr.

Just type “the real Matin Luther King Jr” in Google.

Enough of myths.

Gébé Tremblay

May 3, 2010 at 8:53 am
“I have over the past several months spent a great deal of time in the US. There is little coverage of Canadian items in the mainstream media.”(Anonymous)

I spent a year over there for a project of a canadian company. I could not believe how little information their media gave of the rest of the world. I felt I was in a bubble. Then, on night, in my hotel room, just after another Gilligan’s Island program, there was a “special” presentation of a World Miss Teen Peageant. I was so happy that I could at least see other people than americans ! So I said to myself that maybe they were not so bad after all. Deception !! What they meant as “World pageant” was the U.S !! All the states, including Hawaï and Alaska !!

Only a few people I met there had some knowledge of what was going on outside the USA.

I was so happy to come back to Quebec ! I mean, in the “connected” World !

Gébé Tremblay

May 3, 2010 at 9:08 am
“You should look a little more deeply into who realy was Martin Luther King Jr.
Just type “the real Matin Luther King Jr” in Google.
Enough of myths.”

I am not saying people should model their entire lives on that of MLK.

I was just, of course, referring to the passage about people being judged “not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character”.

Acajack

May 3, 2010 at 9:19 am
“Vraiment Toronto n’a pas plus de ghettos que Montréal.”(Bruce)

N’importe quoi.

Lorsque les médias juifs de New York s’intéressent au Canada :

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/realestate/18nati.html

Il y a une excellente étude sur les réseaux communautaires de Toronto et leurs histoires. Avec un peu de recherche vous la trouverez.

Gébé Tremblay

May 3, 2010 at 9:20 am
Bruce “Ces jeunes, moins de 35 ans, sont beaucoup plus ouverts que nous les gens un peu plus âgés comme moi, Acajack, et notre cohorte.”

How old do you think I am? I haven’t been on this earth for much more than 35 years to be perfectly frank. But contrary to most people (not necessarily pointing at you here Bruce), I’ve actually been paying attention to things for most of the limited time I have been on the planet.

Acajack

May 3, 2010 at 9:35 am
“I was just, of course, referring to the passage about people being judged “not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character”.”(Acajack)

That is of course nonsense and simply politicorrectness of the liberal left. Notice how it suggest the individual over the nation and culture. This black guy is actually denying his own people’s culture.

If what he said was true, there would not be any need for a UNESCO immigration workforce plan for the occident.

Are you denying the asians’ peculiar talents in maths ? The Indian’s talent in programming ? The blacks superiority in sports ? The jews’ talent in economics and communication ? The eastern europeans’s talent as builders and artisants ? Etc…etc…

The same goes for character.

It would be wiser to aknowledge and accept our differences than to ignore or refute them for political reasons.

Gébé Tremblay

May 3, 2010 at 9:40 am
“Bruce “Ces jeunes, moins de 35 ans, sont beaucoup plus ouverts que nous les gens un peu plus âgés comme moi, Acajack, et notre cohorte.””(Bruce)

Encore du politicorrect mumbojumbo.

Qu’est-ce donc que ces portes en eux que tu prétend ils doivent ouvrir et dont leurs parents n’ouvrent pas ? Est-ce quelque chose d’inné (racial) ? Ou est-ce quelque chose inculqué (culturel) ?

Quelle est la nature de ces portes que tu prétend existent en nous et qu’il nous faut ouvrir pour être politiquement et moralement acceptables (et à qui ?) ?

Ne naissons-nous pas humains ? Nous naissons fermés ?

Gébé Tremblay

May 3, 2010 at 9:52 am
“The Anglo-Iroquois alliance continued pretty much unchanged for most of the eighteenth century. Iroquois fought on the Anglo-American side during the Seven Years’ War (1756-63), and for the Crown during the American Revolution. ”

That is not completely true. There is evidence that suggest that the Iroquois were playing both sides. While fighting for the British, they secretly provided the French with intelligence on the British. Many early French victories in the Seven Years War was said to be partly due to the intelligence they received from the Iroquois. Apparently, the Iroquois hoped that by playing both sides, they could weaken both and then become the dominant group in North America like they were earlier in the century. A gross miscalculation on their part.

Antonio

May 3, 2010 at 10:19 am
“Lepage almost certainly makes more money than Sugar Sammy.”

Is this based on (once again) anecdotal evidence, like Lepage’s alleged fluency in foreign languages (someone who heard someone tell someone that Lepage spoke English to his guests, off stage…of course).

Anonymous

May 3, 2010 at 10:25 am
Gébé Tremblay

“No way. A multicultural mess. Babel tower.

Lots of trouble on the horizon.

Ghetto land.”

I completetly agree with you on this one. See this link

http://www.canoe.com/infos/chroniques/richardmartineau/archives/2010/03/20100328-075719.html

Antonio

May 3, 2010 at 10:28 am
Here is a good place to start, bruce :

BUILDING AN ETHNIC ECONOMY IN TORONTO, CANADA

Carlos Teixeira
Department of Geography, University of Toronto
St. George and Scarborough, Ontario, Canada

http://www.ub.es/geocrit/sn-94-77e.htm

Gébé Tremblay

May 3, 2010 at 11:12 am
“Is this based on (once again) anecdotal evidence, like Lepage’s alleged fluency in foreign languages (someone who heard someone tell someone that Lepage spoke English to his guests, off stage…of course).”

I apologize for not having access to neither Sugar Sammy nor Guy A. Lepage’s T4 slips.

Acajack

May 3, 2010 at 11:21 am
@Antonio: I purposely wrote “Iroquois” instead of “the Iroquois” because not all Iroquois adhered to the British alliance. I believe that during the Seven Years’ war one of the tribes in the Iroquois Confederacy (the northern Mohawks??) actually fought on the French side.

littlerob

May 3, 2010 at 3:46 pm
@Gébé: I would take the websites that purport to tell “the truth” about Martin Luther King with a grain of salt. Dr. King is dead, of course, and dead men can’t hire lawyers or sue for slander.

littlerob

May 3, 2010 at 4:37 pm
edward

May 6, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Poorly reasoned atlicre. Out of the 200 judges and 3,600 lawyers who speak French in Western Canada, how many can speak the language at a level proficient enough not to require an interpreter in our highest court? A few dozen maybe?This discriminatory bill is designed to exclude thousands of Canadians in the legal profession from sitting on our highest court simply because they don’t speak the correct language.Access to the courts in our official languages is the critical point. And citizens must also be heard by our country’s best legal minds. Over 90% of Canada’s legal talent will be excluded from service on our highest court by this ill-thought out law. An improvement? Hardly.Lesser quality judges sitting on our highest courts in the name of PC-rigidity serves no one’s best interests.This bill represents a setback for Canadian citizens of any language.

Marcelino

December 30, 2013 at 9:52 am
If you want to blame anyone, blame Charest (his swipe was meant for the ADQ).Charest came out ansigat Harper, and it was down hill from there, with Duceppe grabbing the Harper is a devil in a cowboy hat\’ flag and running, unimpeded, with it.We don\’t have the organization in Quebec that was needed, blame time. In time we will have.Also blame Alberta, Duceppe and Layton did! and it resonated, big oil big oil .their supporters rallied around what they see as greed, they are socialists remember, and had lead Canada down that nanny state path for a long long time.Conservatives have au unshakeable, tho small, representation in Quebec. We were not knocked out, the pundits, polsters and Duceppe were wrong.In the ROC PMSH and a Conservative government won BIG!(Danny got his money\’s worth, and looks like a fool IMO)bonus**** Nanos was wrong, they were all wrong.

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December 30, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Over the past 20 years in southern Ontario, I have never seen a cmeent truck outfitted as a Canadian flag. I wonder what it looks like when the cylinder is rotating. I wonder what it cost to decorate the truck that way. Maybe the guy has patriotic, truck-painter friends. Maybe it only happens inside the Beltway. Or maybe he’s an immigrant from Texas.

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