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	<title>Comments on: Habs sold. The Old English Families Still Own Montreal.</title>
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		<title>By: William Holden</title>
		<link>http://angryfrenchguy.com/2009/06/22/habs-sold-the-old-english-families-still-own-montreal/comment-page-1/#comment-8661</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Holden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Est-ce-que le propriétaire des Canadiens de Montréal serait Francophone dans un Québec indépendant?  Non.  Est-ce-que les familles Francophones seraient plus riches dans un Québec indépendant?  Non.  Est-ce-que l&#039;indépendance du Québec changerait le fait que les Francophones constitue 2% de la population d&#039;Amerique du Nord?  Non.

Nous vaincrons!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Est-ce-que le propriétaire des Canadiens de Montréal serait Francophone dans un Québec indépendant?  Non.  Est-ce-que les familles Francophones seraient plus riches dans un Québec indépendant?  Non.  Est-ce-que l&#8217;indépendance du Québec changerait le fait que les Francophones constitue 2% de la population d&#8217;Amerique du Nord?  Non.</p>
<p>Nous vaincrons!</p>
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		<title>By: ClaudeB</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ClaudeB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oups... Anyway. The Fonds de solidarité FTQ was backing both Quebec-based bids.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oups&#8230; Anyway. The Fonds de solidarité FTQ was backing both Quebec-based bids.</p>
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		<title>By: Cla:udeB</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@S. Church</p>
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		<title>By: S. Church</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S. Church]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well Actually your title should have been &quot;Unions still own Montreal&quot; - it was the FTQ that funded the Molson bid.  I think there is one guy who works there with an English name - AHAH!  Another anglo conspiracy. They have even infiltated the FTQ.

Not alot of substance to your theory]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Actually your title should have been &#8220;Unions still own Montreal&#8221; &#8211; it was the FTQ that funded the Molson bid.  I think there is one guy who works there with an English name &#8211; AHAH!  Another anglo conspiracy. They have even infiltated the FTQ.</p>
<p>Not alot of substance to your theory</p>
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		<title>By: ABP</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ABP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C&#039;est des maudit anglos encore, mon ami.

I agree with you, where was spaceman Laliberte, Celine Dion (only a 100 million a year in income) and d&#039;autres francais.

AFG, where are the Quebecois who wanted to invest...Well, I guess those who backed up the Molson bid.

Your head still ok, or still recovering from le fete denire soir.

Hope you had a good time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;est des maudit anglos encore, mon ami.</p>
<p>I agree with you, where was spaceman Laliberte, Celine Dion (only a 100 million a year in income) and d&#8217;autres francais.</p>
<p>AFG, where are the Quebecois who wanted to invest&#8230;Well, I guess those who backed up the Molson bid.</p>
<p>Your head still ok, or still recovering from le fete denire soir.</p>
<p>Hope you had a good time.</p>
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		<title>By: ABP</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well maybe -40 Billion less this year.  On the rest, who backed the Molson boys with a big loan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well maybe -40 Billion less this year.  On the rest, who backed the Molson boys with a big loan.</p>
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		<title>By: T.K.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T.K.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fact is that through the Caisee de depot francophone Quebecers probably own disproportionately more of anglo Quebec, anglo Canada, and anglo America than vice-versa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is that through the Caisee de depot francophone Quebecers probably own disproportionately more of anglo Quebec, anglo Canada, and anglo America than vice-versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Damien]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still harping on the past and banging the drum of resentment. In your world, Anglos are damned if do and damned if they don&#039;t. The Molson brothers simply out bid the competitors. In most places that would be regarded as spirited conviction and determination, a real show of commitment to the team, city, and province. Believe it not AFG, Anglos love the Habs too. Anglos Habs fans are fiercely proud of the Richards, Beliveau, Lafleur, Roy, and all the other Francophone players. The Habs are one of the things that bring us together, something we can all agree on. Why do you have to continually shit on the Anglos, drag skeletons out of the closet, and imbue an event like this with sinister undertones of the past. What the fuck, the Molsons did a good thing in most people&#039;s mind. How&#039;s it work in your mind? If Anglos invest in the city/province it&#039;s all about gaining control and subjugating the Franophones. Very lame dude; get over it. Your seething is tiresome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still harping on the past and banging the drum of resentment. In your world, Anglos are damned if do and damned if they don&#8217;t. The Molson brothers simply out bid the competitors. In most places that would be regarded as spirited conviction and determination, a real show of commitment to the team, city, and province. Believe it not AFG, Anglos love the Habs too. Anglos Habs fans are fiercely proud of the Richards, Beliveau, Lafleur, Roy, and all the other Francophone players. The Habs are one of the things that bring us together, something we can all agree on. Why do you have to continually shit on the Anglos, drag skeletons out of the closet, and imbue an event like this with sinister undertones of the past. What the fuck, the Molsons did a good thing in most people&#8217;s mind. How&#8217;s it work in your mind? If Anglos invest in the city/province it&#8217;s all about gaining control and subjugating the Franophones. Very lame dude; get over it. Your seething is tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Maybe the problem is that the Péladeau family who have many friends in the Parti québécois, and the Board of Quebecor, chaired by former Conservative PM Brian Mulroney, would not have been as willing to make big trades and fire coaches any time the Liberal Party have some unpleasant news they need to drown…&quot; AFG

Maybe the Molson&#039;s, who were already 19 % owners and presumably business partners with Gillett, maybe they had an edge, maybe they outbid Péladeau, maybe whatever. Hard to see how the liberal party could inflence Gilett to go against his own interests. But again AFG is never short on conspiracy theories whenever it suits his purpose to maintain the theory of anglo dominance of the downtrodden Québécois.

Q: please name 10 &quot;old English families&quot; who still own Montreal ? The list gets pretty short after you check off the Molsons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe the problem is that the Péladeau family who have many friends in the Parti québécois, and the Board of Quebecor, chaired by former Conservative PM Brian Mulroney, would not have been as willing to make big trades and fire coaches any time the Liberal Party have some unpleasant news they need to drown…&#8221; AFG</p>
<p>Maybe the Molson&#8217;s, who were already 19 % owners and presumably business partners with Gillett, maybe they had an edge, maybe they outbid Péladeau, maybe whatever. Hard to see how the liberal party could inflence Gilett to go against his own interests. But again AFG is never short on conspiracy theories whenever it suits his purpose to maintain the theory of anglo dominance of the downtrodden Québécois.</p>
<p>Q: please name 10 &#8220;old English families&#8221; who still own Montreal ? The list gets pretty short after you check off the Molsons.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinster171</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ AFG :

I think it&#039;s probably a result of &quot;bad publicity&quot;. Can anyone still keep score of how many times bad Julie Snyder/PK Péladeau jokes were made over the past couple of years? The word &quot;convergence&quot; (in French) as become synonymous of Québécor in Québec in that same period of time. And who spoke these words over and over again? Mostly people from the left side of the political spectrum, ... with some &quot;affinités&quot; for the PQ.

Of course, medias outside the Québécor banner had to find a way to discredit a possible deal with Québécor. I guess it could be called a conflict of interests. In the end, however, business is business and Québécor didn&#039;t have the best offer on the table. 

On a side note, I can understand that some people are disappointed that the Habs were not bought by a francophone. But how can we blame anybody except those francophone businessman that don&#039;t seem to want to take a shot at the Habs? I mean, there has been a couple of occasions in the recent past. When Gillet bought the team in 2000 or 2001 (not sure), where was Québécor? Where was René Angélil? Where was Guy Laliberté?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ AFG :</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s probably a result of &#8220;bad publicity&#8221;. Can anyone still keep score of how many times bad Julie Snyder/PK Péladeau jokes were made over the past couple of years? The word &#8220;convergence&#8221; (in French) as become synonymous of Québécor in Québec in that same period of time. And who spoke these words over and over again? Mostly people from the left side of the political spectrum, &#8230; with some &#8220;affinités&#8221; for the PQ.</p>
<p>Of course, medias outside the Québécor banner had to find a way to discredit a possible deal with Québécor. I guess it could be called a conflict of interests. In the end, however, business is business and Québécor didn&#8217;t have the best offer on the table. </p>
<p>On a side note, I can understand that some people are disappointed that the Habs were not bought by a francophone. But how can we blame anybody except those francophone businessman that don&#8217;t seem to want to take a shot at the Habs? I mean, there has been a couple of occasions in the recent past. When Gillet bought the team in 2000 or 2001 (not sure), where was Québécor? Where was René Angélil? Where was Guy Laliberté?</p>
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