This bothers me (I’m not kidding). To say that I worship something or someone. There is no person or thing in the world that I worship. I sure hope you don’t either.

But if you do in fact worship the individual that looks back you when you look in the mirror, let me burst your bubble: he’s not perfect.

“You are are completely ignorant about the history and demography of North America and not in the least botherd by it”

Hint: just because you repeat something over and over and your lap dogs (all 3 of them) agree, won’t necessarily make a fact. You should realize that at this point you saying something like this to anyone is more of an endorsement than critique. I’m not talking about myself, because as you very correctly pointed out, I am not in the least bothered by it. I’m talking about people much nicer than me who are driven off this forum by your “eloquence” the minute you get a whiff that they may disagree with you.

And don’t think that because someone stops responding to you means that you won the argument. It simply means that your paranoid babble needs no comment.

I assume you inferred this by my frequent references to and my strong support for Doc Mailloux and Gilles Proulx that I voiced over and over and over.

http://www.vigile.net/ds-lisee/docs/SouvProbable0504.ppt

And in the last Léger poll (May 25) it was 41%:

http://www.legermarketing.com/documents/pol/095251FR.pdf

The 41% it polls now is where it was polling during the ’94 election campaign. A year later 63% of francophones voted for sovereignty and 69% of Montréal francophones. It was polling down at 41% in 2002 as well. By 2005 it was polling over 50%.

“Have a good look and then get back to me of how Quebec has contributed to Canada.”

You’re not helping your argumentation with comments like these. Way up until the 1950s, there were a lot of anglos that seemed to think Québec had a whole lot to offer financially speaking. They were ruling the financial sector in Montréal, and making sure job advancement was nearly impossible for French Canadian. My grandfather once applied for a promotion within the company he was working in. He was a well-instructed man. Rather than giving him the job, they give it to an anglo, who was previously working in the company’s stables.

Now, I’m not holding grudge for this. This was 60 years ago. But I’m not going to just stay silent if you try to demonstrate that Quebec is not of any use to Canada. If that was the case, I don’t think we’d had witnessed the whole ridiculous “WE LOVE YOU!” parade in 1995.

“…the percentage of the population in favour of Quebec becoming a country has pretty much doubled.”

True enough. But I’m thinking that since a couple of years, this percentage has been going down. What were the latest polls saying? 30%? It is true, however, that this number would be likely to go up a bit if we were in the middle of another pre-referendum campaign.

I’m thinking that there’s probably a reason why this number is going down. I’m thinking that there are probably a whole lot of people that are becoming tired of hearing the same old arguments over and over again, and that a lot of these people are thinking that these old arguments are not legitimate. This is the problem with the separatist argumentation : it has failed in renewing itself over the years.

“You may not have, Vinster, but Quebec’s “dirty laundry” such as the examples found on this forum is/are often used by many people to question Quebecers’ ability to govern themselves, be it as a hypothetical independent country or even as a part of Canada but with enhanced autonomy.”

And you don’t think that Canada’s “dirty laundry” has been over-exploited as well? My whole point in this discussion is that, although some people do not like to hear it, and although some people do not want to acknowledge it, we do have some dirty laundry of our own. While we can all agree that this dirty laundry isn’t a fair representation of how the majority of Quebeckers sees the ROC, we seem to think that the Canadian dirty laundry is a perfectly reflexion of how they see us! How fair is that reasoning?

“The underlying message of all the negativity and finger-pointing is that Quebecers can’t be trusted with too much power, and that their innate shortcomings somehow have to counterbalanced by the English-speaking majority within the Canadian political sphere, which is deemed much more “trustable”.”

You seem like you’re pretty open-minded and reasonable, Acajack, but you are also very one-sided in your analysis. Our own minority of idiots likes to refer to Anglos as blokes. Our own minority of idiots likes to think that all anglos are stupid NeoCons, and that somehow Quebec is morally superior because of our numerous social measures. Our own minority of idiots still thinks that the anglos of the ROC are hung up on assimilating us. Just like the U.S. were building up the biggest naval army in the world in 1910, a naval army big enough to take on the next two biggest in the world, mainly because they were scared that the British would try to invade them once again!

A lot of people can’t seem to get over 1995, can’t seem to realize that as the years go by, a lot of things are smoothing out on their own. I’m sorry, but I don’t believe in paranoia.