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		<title>By: Acajack</title>
		<link>http://angryfrenchguy.com/2008/09/23/generation-101-a-movie-about-my-country/comment-page-1/#comment-3124</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;“Montreal is the urban, multicultural incarnation of modern Quebec.”
Which is about like saying hummus is the urban, multicultural incarnation of modern chickpeas.
The lemon juice, olive oil, garlic, and salt sometimes get together and have a little party of their own because it is and always will be a dish that was conceived primarily to showcase the resilience, cost effectiveness, and mild flavour of the chickpea!&quot;

You make an interesting point here, although I think you may be indirectly proving mine in the process. 

See, the thing about hummus is that the chick peas are an essential ingredient. No chick peas, no hummus. Stuff that’s in hummus *sans* chick peas may amount to something else that could potentially be good, but it ain’t really hummus.

Same thing with Montreal. If Montreal weren’t in (francophone) Quebec, it would be just another northern North American city. 

Or, if the francophone element in Montreal was perhaps not completely absent but was diluted to the point of a folkloric afterthought, then Montreal would just be a big Ottawa or a huge Moncton. Not that there’s anything wrong with Ottawa or Moncton. But they’re not Montreal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“Montreal is the urban, multicultural incarnation of modern Quebec.”<br />
Which is about like saying hummus is the urban, multicultural incarnation of modern chickpeas.<br />
The lemon juice, olive oil, garlic, and salt sometimes get together and have a little party of their own because it is and always will be a dish that was conceived primarily to showcase the resilience, cost effectiveness, and mild flavour of the chickpea!&#8221;</p>
<p>You make an interesting point here, although I think you may be indirectly proving mine in the process. </p>
<p>See, the thing about hummus is that the chick peas are an essential ingredient. No chick peas, no hummus. Stuff that’s in hummus *sans* chick peas may amount to something else that could potentially be good, but it ain’t really hummus.</p>
<p>Same thing with Montreal. If Montreal weren’t in (francophone) Quebec, it would be just another northern North American city. </p>
<p>Or, if the francophone element in Montreal was perhaps not completely absent but was diluted to the point of a folkloric afterthought, then Montreal would just be a big Ottawa or a huge Moncton. Not that there’s anything wrong with Ottawa or Moncton. But they’re not Montreal.</p>
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		<title>By: Facturicity</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Montreal is the urban, multicultural incarnation of modern Quebec.&quot;

Which is about like saying hummus is the urban, multicultural incarnation of modern chickpeas.

The lemon juice, olive oil, garlic, and salt sometimes get together and have a little party of their own because it is and always will be a dish that was conceived primarily to showcase the resilience, cost effectiveness, and mild flavour of the chickpea!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Montreal is the urban, multicultural incarnation of modern Quebec.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is about like saying hummus is the urban, multicultural incarnation of modern chickpeas.</p>
<p>The lemon juice, olive oil, garlic, and salt sometimes get together and have a little party of their own because it is and always will be a dish that was conceived primarily to showcase the resilience, cost effectiveness, and mild flavour of the chickpea!</p>
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		<title>By: Acajack</title>
		<link>http://angryfrenchguy.com/2008/09/23/generation-101-a-movie-about-my-country/comment-page-1/#comment-3100</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Montreal is the urban, multicultural incarnation of modern Quebec, just as New York City is an urban, multicultural incarnation of the United States. New York City doesn’t have to be identical to rural Iowa for both to be part of the same country (or nation even). 

The analogy Montreal vs. (rest of Quebec) = Quebec vs. ROC is totally flawed, because the group that is the crushing majority in the rest of Quebec is nonetheless very present in Montreal, and in fact is by far the largest population group even in the city itself. 

The analogy would be accurate if Montreal were 70, 80 or 90% “English-Canadian” or anglophone. But it is not, and it’s not likely to evolve in that direction either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Montreal is the urban, multicultural incarnation of modern Quebec, just as New York City is an urban, multicultural incarnation of the United States. New York City doesn’t have to be identical to rural Iowa for both to be part of the same country (or nation even). </p>
<p>The analogy Montreal vs. (rest of Quebec) = Quebec vs. ROC is totally flawed, because the group that is the crushing majority in the rest of Quebec is nonetheless very present in Montreal, and in fact is by far the largest population group even in the city itself. </p>
<p>The analogy would be accurate if Montreal were 70, 80 or 90% “English-Canadian” or anglophone. But it is not, and it’s not likely to evolve in that direction either.</p>
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		<title>By: littlerob</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve commented on this issue before, but I frequently sense that bilingual francos who switch over to English once they hear my accent (or if I fluff a gender or tense) are doing so to maintain reserve.  It seems like a &quot;vouvoiement&quot; to me.

I have also learned that once my interlocutor makes the switch from French to English, it is not a good idea to try to jump back to French; it is like trying to &quot;tutoyer&quot; after being addressed as &quot;vous.&quot;

I sense that the many anglos who try to use French in Québec are trying their best to &quot;get with the program,&quot; and I also sense that some francos still have a hard time believing that many anglos want to speak French and try to fit in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve commented on this issue before, but I frequently sense that bilingual francos who switch over to English once they hear my accent (or if I fluff a gender or tense) are doing so to maintain reserve.  It seems like a &#8220;vouvoiement&#8221; to me.</p>
<p>I have also learned that once my interlocutor makes the switch from French to English, it is not a good idea to try to jump back to French; it is like trying to &#8220;tutoyer&#8221; after being addressed as &#8220;vous.&#8221;</p>
<p>I sense that the many anglos who try to use French in Québec are trying their best to &#8220;get with the program,&#8221; and I also sense that some francos still have a hard time believing that many anglos want to speak French and try to fit in.</p>
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		<title>By: Facturicity</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Also remember that many bilingual francophones switch to English when they hear an English accent because they think they’re being helpful. Some anglophones seem to think it’s actually an insulting comment on their French, but I don’t have the slightest idea how they got this impression.&quot;

The accompanying tone of voice, level of eye contact, and body language generally say more than the actual words.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Also remember that many bilingual francophones switch to English when they hear an English accent because they think they’re being helpful. Some anglophones seem to think it’s actually an insulting comment on their French, but I don’t have the slightest idea how they got this impression.&#8221;</p>
<p>The accompanying tone of voice, level of eye contact, and body language generally say more than the actual words.</p>
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		<title>By: angryfrenchguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there is a difference between &quot;defend&quot; and &quot;explain&quot;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a difference between &#8220;defend&#8221; and &#8220;explain&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Facturicity</title>
		<link>http://angryfrenchguy.com/2008/09/23/generation-101-a-movie-about-my-country/comment-page-1/#comment-3082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Facturicity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I don’t want to defend this type of attitute, but I know many people in the Plateau and other central neighborhoods are getting tired of Anglophones moving there and NOT making any efforts to speak any French.

This is not your case, as you say, but you are paying the price for the inconsiderateness of others.&quot;

Listen up east-of-St-Laurent anglophones: don&#039;t get tricked into playing a game you can&#039;t win. Do the best you can in French, but do it because it streamlines your interactions with the girls in Jean Coutu, your Vidéotron installer, or even the unspeakably rude people of the STM. It&#039;s a French-speaking city and it helps people get their jobs done faster and with less stress. We can all agree that&#039;s a good thing, especially since I have noticed Montrealers are in need of some stress relief.

But don&#039;t speak French because you think it will elevate you from the unfortunate category of &quot;those Plateau anglophones.&quot; AngryFrenchGuy hits the nail on the head when he says &quot;I don&#039;t want to defend this type of attitude&quot; and then goes right on ahead to defend it. Don&#039;t try to befriend your neighbours (you won&#039;t) make friends (you won&#039;t) or feel you have earned the right to any shred of solidarity with the people you see everyday on the sidewalk or in the café (you haven&#039;t earned any and never will).

The thing to do is take it easy, toughen up, enjoy life, and try to avoid food poisoning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t want to defend this type of attitute, but I know many people in the Plateau and other central neighborhoods are getting tired of Anglophones moving there and NOT making any efforts to speak any French.</p>
<p>This is not your case, as you say, but you are paying the price for the inconsiderateness of others.&#8221;</p>
<p>Listen up east-of-St-Laurent anglophones: don&#8217;t get tricked into playing a game you can&#8217;t win. Do the best you can in French, but do it because it streamlines your interactions with the girls in Jean Coutu, your Vidéotron installer, or even the unspeakably rude people of the STM. It&#8217;s a French-speaking city and it helps people get their jobs done faster and with less stress. We can all agree that&#8217;s a good thing, especially since I have noticed Montrealers are in need of some stress relief.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t speak French because you think it will elevate you from the unfortunate category of &#8220;those Plateau anglophones.&#8221; AngryFrenchGuy hits the nail on the head when he says &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to defend this type of attitude&#8221; and then goes right on ahead to defend it. Don&#8217;t try to befriend your neighbours (you won&#8217;t) make friends (you won&#8217;t) or feel you have earned the right to any shred of solidarity with the people you see everyday on the sidewalk or in the café (you haven&#8217;t earned any and never will).</p>
<p>The thing to do is take it easy, toughen up, enjoy life, and try to avoid food poisoning.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also remember that many bilingual francophones switch to English when they hear an English accent because they think they&#039;re being helpful. Some anglophones seem to think it&#039;s actually an insulting comment on their French, but I don&#039;t have the slightest idea how they got this impression.

I&#039;ve done this on occasion (especially with tourists), but I admit that it&#039;s not a good idea in Quebec. If people are doing an effort to speak French, encourage them instead of trying to &quot;help&quot; them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also remember that many bilingual francophones switch to English when they hear an English accent because they think they&#8217;re being helpful. Some anglophones seem to think it&#8217;s actually an insulting comment on their French, but I don&#8217;t have the slightest idea how they got this impression.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done this on occasion (especially with tourists), but I admit that it&#8217;s not a good idea in Quebec. If people are doing an effort to speak French, encourage them instead of trying to &#8220;help&#8221; them.</p>
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		<title>By: angryfrenchguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Many of the pur lain however want nothing to do with me. They get one whiff of my accent and they switch to english and start asking offensive questions like “So why are all the english moving in OUR neighbourhood?” then walk off in disgust.&quot;

I don&#039;t want to defend this type of attitute, but I know many people in the Plateau and other central neighborhoods are getting tired of Anglophones moving there and NOT making any efforts to speak any French.

This is not your case, as you say, but you are paying the price for the inconsiderateness of others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many of the pur lain however want nothing to do with me. They get one whiff of my accent and they switch to english and start asking offensive questions like “So why are all the english moving in OUR neighbourhood?” then walk off in disgust.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to defend this type of attitute, but I know many people in the Plateau and other central neighborhoods are getting tired of Anglophones moving there and NOT making any efforts to speak any French.</p>
<p>This is not your case, as you say, but you are paying the price for the inconsiderateness of others.</p>
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		<title>By: randy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well this is obvious to me.  I moved from Vancoouver to the plateau about 4 years ago and I communicate with pretty much all my neighbours in french only, few people speak english.

Most of the people that i talk to on a regular basis are not quebecois however, they are south americans or portugese.  I have a different culture, different music, a different accent, and they totally respect that and we are all good friends. 

Many of the pur lain however want nothing to do with me.   They get one whiff of my accent and they switch to english and start asking offensive questions like &quot;So why are all the english moving in OUR neighbourhood?&quot; then walk off in disgust.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this is obvious to me.  I moved from Vancoouver to the plateau about 4 years ago and I communicate with pretty much all my neighbours in french only, few people speak english.</p>
<p>Most of the people that i talk to on a regular basis are not quebecois however, they are south americans or portugese.  I have a different culture, different music, a different accent, and they totally respect that and we are all good friends. </p>
<p>Many of the pur lain however want nothing to do with me.   They get one whiff of my accent and they switch to english and start asking offensive questions like &#8220;So why are all the english moving in OUR neighbourhood?&#8221; then walk off in disgust.</p>
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